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Ola amigos, sou um membro novo aqui no fórum, que encontrei ao pesquisar a respeito deste belo projeto de Rem Koolhaas.

Sou brasileiro, estudande de Engenharia Civil e devo fazer uma apresentação à minha turma de universidade bastante detalhada a respeito desta obra, não só arquitetonicamente, como PRINCIPALMENTE de seu sistema estrutural.

Estou tendo bastante dificuldade para encontrar maiores informações a este respeito, já entrei em contato até mesmo com a Arup, empresa que desenvolveu a solução estrutural deste edifício, mas eles pouco me ajudaram em sua resposta.

Gostaria de saber se algum de vocês sabe como eu poderia encontrar maiores detalhes sobre a estrutura deste edifício e não apenas de seu design. Pois eu preciso fazer um modelo em 3D desta estrutura, mas não consigo as medidas e modulações para tal.

Qualquer informação ou material que possa me ajudar, sejam fotos, esboços, esquemas, textos ou o que for, me deixaria muito grato.

Agradeço desde já àqueles que se interessarem em me ajudar.

Podem entrar em contato comigo através de meu e-mail: renan@hcarrion.com.br

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Descabido também não é bem assim... Rem Koolhaas ainda deve ter tido que trabalhar algum coisa para chegar a este patamar. E nada é aprovado sem passar por ele... mas também não aprecio esse método. Só o facto de ter de dormir e comer no mesmo sitio onde se trabalha... é de doidos!

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OMA, é o escritório de Rem Koolhaas e existem muitos arquitectos e não só a trabalhar incluindo portugueses. Mas como o sr é vaidoso fica com os louros. Por isso é descabido os elogios ao sr, Rem.


offtopic...esse tipo de consideração poderá ser aplicado a qualquer gabinete/atelier que tenha mais do que um arquitecto a trabalhar no mesmo projecto, a autoria é só de um, o que assina o projecto.
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Este edificio desapareceu.


Fire claims building at CCTV Beijing headquarters

BEIJING (Reuters) – Fire consumed a building in Beijing that formed part of Central China Television's new headquarters as residents set off fireworks throughout the city to celebrate the Lantern Festival on Monday evening.
Flames 20-30 feet high shot out of the building, just north of the landmark CCTV tower designed by Dutch architect Rem Koolhaas. The flames were reflected in the tower, which itself appeared to be untouched.

"The upper fifth is on fire, multiple floors. Debris is falling and flames are coming out in all directions," Edie Marshall, a Beijing resident, told Reuters.
The fire began abating just before midnight (11:00 a.m. EST).

No one appeared to have been in the building, a policeman on the scene said, adding he had no immediate knowledge of any casualties.

Hundreds of people watched and took photos as fire trucks sprayed streams of water on the building. Armed police moved the onlookers beyond a cordon as paramilitary troops moved in on the building.

The fire department did not immediately comment on the suspected cause of the blaze, which occurred as the city was bombarded with fireworks on the final day of the Lunar New Year holiday.

The destroyed building housed the Mandarin Oriental hotel in eastern Beijing, which was supposed to open in 2009. It was also designed to include a theater, recording studios and cinemas, while CCTV's main production and broadcasting units were to occupy the main building next door.
(Writing by Lucy Hornby: Editing by Angus MacSwan).

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A explicação do incendio! :foto: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP50yddytzs"]YouTube - Beijing is on Fire part.1[/ame] Estes chineses são loucos, fogo de artificio perto de um edificio em construção, em que existe sempre lixo da obra, e que por vezes é bastante inflamável como por exemplo os plásticos de protecção do aluminio que se retiram?!!!Insane!:s

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O Rem Koolhas deve ter neste momento um processo na China. Os chineses devem ter censurado... por mais censura que eles tentem impor na Internet o facto eh que o mundo todo sabe disto pela net. Tratando-se de uma obra deste arquitecto, um Starchitect, implica a pergunta: - Como pode isto acontecer a um dos arquitectos mais famosos do Mundo? Afinal ele nao eh assim tao bom. Os clientes do mundo inteiro devem ter perguntado no dia seguinte: - O meu edificio tambem vai arder assim desta maneira? Ele nao se pode refugiar na ideia que nao havia regulamentos contra o incendio na China. Consequencias: 1 . Os arquitectos que fiscalizaram a obra sao capazes de levar um tiro na cabeca. 2 . Se houve corrupcao vai haver penas de morte e cadeia para tudo o que esteve envolvido. 3 . A OMA acabou de perdeu um excelente mercado de trabalho: China. Houve um arquitecto que passou pelo mesmo. I.M. Pei em relacao a um arranha ceus em Boston. Os vidros comecaram a cair depois dum vendaval. Foi obrigado a pagar indemnizacoes e perdeu contratos. Agora imaginem isto acontecer ao OMA.

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Pequim, China 10/02/2009 11:11 (LUSA)
Temas: Acidentes e Desastres, Incêndios

Pequim, 10 Fev (Lusa) – O incêndio que destruiu segunda-feira à noite um dos mais luxuosos hotéis de Pequim, o novo Mandarim Oriental, desenhado pelo arquitecto holandês Rem Koolhaas, foi provocado por fogo de artifício, anunciou hoje a imprensa oficial chinesa.

Foi também o maior incêndio registado em Pequim nos últimos 15 anos, reacendendo a polémica sobre o lançamento de petardos e fogo de artifício dentro do perímetro urbano da cidade.

Um bombeiro morreu e seis ficaram feridos.

O hotel, cuja inauguração estava anunciada para meados deste ano, ocupava uma torre de 44 andares no complexo que integra a nova sede da Televisão Central da China (CCTV), na zona oriental de Pequim.

Trata-se de um empreendimento de cerca de cinco mil milhões de yuan (568 milhões de euros), desenhado por Rem Koolhaas (autor da Casa da Musica, no Porto) e considerado um dos novos ícones arquitectónicos de Pequim, ao lado do novo terminal do aeroporto, de Norman Foster, e do estádio olímpico (“Ninho de Pássaro”), dos suíços Herzog&de Meuron.

O incêndio foi provocado por peças de fogo de artifício “muito mais potentes e explosivas” do que as que se vendem nas bancas de rua durante as celebrações do novo ano lunar e foram encomendadas “ilegalmente” por “um quadro superior” da CCTV, disse um porta-voz do governo municipal de Pequim.

A CCTV já pediu desculpa pelos “grandes prejuízos causados ao património do país”.

Os petardos e o fogo de artifício são dois ingredientes obrigatórios de qualquer festa chinesa, mas em 1993, por razoes ambientais e de segurança, a câmara de Pequim proibiu essa tradição dentro da quinta circular que envolve a cidade.

A impopular proibição foi levantada em 2006 e desde então, durante a passagem do ano lunar, que continua a ser a maior festa da China e cujas celebrações se prolongam por 15 dias, é de novo permitido cumprir a ruidosa tradição.

Ate à véspera do novo ano lunar, que começou no passado dia 26 de Janeiro, sob o signo do Búfalo, já tinham sido vendidas em Pequim cerca de 230.000 caixas de fogo de artificio, mais 28 por cento que em 2008.

AC.
Lusa/Fim

in http://www.lusa.pt/lusaweb/user/showitem?service=310&listid=NewsList310&listpage=1&docid=9309856


Incêndio destrói hotel junto a Televisão Nacional em Pequim

09.02.2009 - 15h20 CNN
Um grande incêndio foi hoje à noite registado, pela hora local (início da tarde em Lisboa), num hotel de luxo recentemente construído em Pequim e ainda não ocupado.

Desconhece-se a causa das chamas que engolfaram grande parte do Mandarin Oriental e não houve de imediato notícias de ferimentos, segundo os correspondentes da CNN que se encontravam na zona.

O chefe da delegação da CNN na China, Jaime FlorCruz, que estava perto, comentou: "Parece que todo o edifício vai arder."

Os bombeiros que afluíram ao local pareciam estar a conseguir limitar os estragos, ao fim de uma hora, apesar de as chamas terem subido pelo menos até ao trigésimo piso.

O novo hotel situa-se junto de uma torre recentemente construída para a China Central Television (CCTV), mas não havia indícios de que o incêndio se estivesse a propagar a esse ou a outros prédios.

O Mandarin Oriental-Beijing era o mais recente braço de uma vasta cadeia de estabelecimentos hoteleiros de cinco estrelas representada em locais como Washington, Nova Iorque, Banguecoque e Hong Kong.

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Illegal fireworks gut Beijing landmark
Beijing, February 10, 2009
First Published: 23:31 IST(10/2/2009)
Last Updated: 23:36 IST(10/2/2009)

A charred steel skeleton is all that remains of a new 241-room luxury hotel in the heart of Beijing, where tourists flock to photograph Olympian skyscrapers designed to rival the older skylines of global capitals.

The 520-foot-high steel tower was destroyed within hours in a Monday night inferno that blacked out a full moon sky.

On Tuesday, officials blamed the blaze — and the resultant death of a fireman — on the Communist Party’s propaganda arm for setting off hundreds of powerful fireworks without permission, and ignoring warnings from police patrols.

Planned as a hotel, cinema complex and television studio, it was slated to open this year. It arched sharply next to two Z-shaped leaning towers linked at 90-degree angles, to house an iconic media centre for the Communist Party broadcaster China Central Television.

The two buildings, designed by architects in the Netherlands and built at a cost of $ 714 million, were meant as a display of the power of modern China.
The Xinhua news agency said policemen on patrol had objected to the fireworks. “We have videos of the scene and remnants of the fireworks, which will serve as strong evidence in the investigation,” said Luo Yuan, deputy chief of the Beijing Fire Control Bureau. “The property’s owners ignored police warnings against such fireworks.’’

The inferno continued into Monday night while the skyline was also lit by a traditional display of fireworks to mark the end of the Lunar New Year holiday.
The blaze was on from 8.27 pm to 2 am. About 600 firemen battled to save the hotel even as fireworks continued on nearby streets. A 30-year-old firefighter died from inhaling toxic fumes, and seven others were injured.

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China TV admits it burned down new HQ with illegal fireworks display

China Central Television, the official broadcasting mouthpiece of the Communist Party, was forced to admit it burned down part of its hallmark new headquarters building with an illegal fireworks display.

Mandarin Oriental hotel: The 30-storey building, which was to have housed a theatre, studios and a five-star Mandarin Oriental Hotel was almost completely destroyed by the blaze Photo: AFP

One fireman died and six others were injured in the blaze which engulfed part of the complex on Monday night, sending dramatic flames shooting into the sky over Beijing.

The 30-storey building, which was to have housed a theatre, studios and a five-star Mandarin Oriental Hotel when it opened later this year, was almost completely destroyed by the blaze, which took six hours to extinguish.
Bystanders reported immediately that it seemed to have been set off by fireworks, and the fire brigade confirmed that CCTV itself had hosted a fireworks display for staff on site.

A spokesman added that the display was professionally organised and so large-scale that CCTV had been forced to ask for local authority permission – which had been refused because the site was too dangerous.

The fire was the most dramatic seen in Beijing for years, with news spreading within minutes through online pictures and eyewitness accounts on twitter. One video showed the fireworks display turning to disaster as smoke started to rise from the roof of the complex.

The main building, known locally as "Big Pants" because its two leaning, upside down 'L's are said to resemble a man hitching his trousers, was apparently undamaged.

It was one of the Beijing Olympics' signature buildings, designed by the leading Dutch architect, Rem Koolhaas, and engineered by the British firm Arup.

The fireworks used in the display were stronger than those normally on sale, according to the local fire department, and set off by a specialist pyrotechnics firm hired by CCTV for the Lantern Festival, which marks the first full moon of the Chinese New Year.

"Owners of the property ignored policemen's warnings that such fireworks were not allowed," Luo Yuan, deputy head of the Beijing fire control bureau said.

Mandarin Oriental said no-one was inside the building at the time.
The speed with which the fire spread is also likely to be subject to an investigation, with safety standards and the control of flammable substances on the site likely to come under scrutiny.

The disaster brought an unprecedented apology from CCTV, one of the most powerful state organs which is directly controlled by the Communist Party's propaganda department.

"CCTV is deeply sorry that the fire caused severe losses to state property," it said, though it did not mention the death of the fireman, a 30-year-old local man.

"CCTV sincerely apologises to people who live nearby for the inconvenience and for the traffic jams (caused by the fire)".


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Things Lost In the Beijing Fire
The deadly fire that broke out in Beijing’s business district has apparently left the landmark $800 million square China Central Television Tower without serious damage. But the iconic structure and its fans have suffered a loss nevertheless.

The fire-damaged TVCC building as seen on Tuesday (Photo by AP)

The inferno– which CCTV has admitted was caused by a fireworks display arranged by one its own employees-– turned the 44-story Television Cultural Center into blackened hulk. The boot-shaped building was an integral part of well-known Dutch architect Rem Koolhaas’s award-winning vision for the CCTV complex in the heart of Beijing’s Central Business District.

It was the two-building design that won Mr. Koolhaas and his associates the design commission from CCTV, China’s monopoly national broadcaster, in a hotly contested competition involving some of the world’s most prestigious architects. Rocco Yim, one of the judges, told the Journal he was impressed by the complementary relationship between the two towers. “The boot and the loop- struck me as very interesting,” Yim said in a 2007 interview. “It is not just a standalone, (but) an interactive relationship with a little brother.”

Another fan, blogger Alex Pasternack, wrote in a post that year that the TVCC building “was always meant to be a more lighthearted, pleasurable affair than its hulking sibling next door,” which he described as having a twisting, otherworldly shape.” Pasternack, a former writer with local design magazine Urbane, wrote that the TVCC building was nicknamed “the fun place” by folks at Mr. Koolhaas’s firm Office for Metropolitan Architecture, or OMA.

The building– which was to house the five-star Mandarin Oriental luxury hotel, a theater and recording studios-– was clad in a unique skin of titanium zinc alloy, a material that its designers believed would allow the building to rust with dignity and endure the passage of time better than other metal buildings, Pasternack wrote. (To some ordinary passersby, however, the shiny exterior resembled corrugated aluminum siding more suited to shantytowns.)

Critics of the overall CCTV compound design say the project’s gargantuan size, the TVCC building’s boot shape and cantilevered overhang of the main building are designed to inspire fear and symbolize state power and media control.

As if to reinforce this, Internet users complained that last night’s inferno was played down by Chinese media. Media site Danwei noted “this morning, Xinhua’s own website featured a fire smack in the middle of the homepage, but it wasn’t from Beijing. A scheduled blaze during a Lantern Festival celebration in Korea ended up causing a stampede that led to the deaths of at least four crowd members.”

–Mei Fong

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Investigators blame China's state TV station for fire tragedy
18 hours ago

BEIJING (AFP) — Investigators Tuesday blamed China's state TV station for a huge blaze at its new headquarters that engulfed a hotel, saying fireworks it illegally set off to celebrate the Lunar New Year caused the fire.

One firefighter died after inhaling toxic fumes while battling the fire at the Mandarin Oriental's nearly finished flagship hotel inside the CCTV complex that began on Monday night and raged for more than five hours, officials said.

Seven other people were injured, but the Mandarin Oriental said no one was in the hotel when the fire started, indicating the death toll was unlikely to climb sharply.

The 159-metre (524-foot) tall hotel was just 200 hundred metres from the futuristic CCTV tower that has quickly won fame as one of Beijing's most stunning buildings and a striking symbol of China's new-found global power.

Both buildings were designed by renowned Dutch architect Rem Koolhaas' Office of Metropolitan Architecture and due to open this year.

City government officials said the exterior of the hotel had been severely damaged, while the external walls of the 234-metre (770-foot) CCTV tower were burnt but its structure was not harmed.

In a public relations disaster for CCTV, which is one of the ruling Communist Party's chief propaganda arms, authorities said the station defied police warnings and set off powerful fireworks in the complex.

"The owner caused the fire because it violated regulations and set off fireworks at the construction site," Zhu Xu, a spokesman with the Beijing government, told AFP.

CCTV staff recorded the fireworks show, which involved pyrotechnics far stronger than the public is allowed to use, the official Xinhua news agency quoted Beijing Fire Control Bureau Luo Yuan as saying.

"Owners of the property ignored policemen's warnings that such fireworks were not allowed," Luo said, according to Xinhua. He said the people who set off the fireworks were being detained for questioning.

Fireworks had erupted right across Beijing on Monday night to celebrate the Lantern Festival that marks the official end of the Lunar New Year celebrations.

Letting off fireworks on Lunar New Year's Eve, which fell on January 25 this year, and throughout the festive period is a long-held Chinese tradition based on the belief that the noise will ward off evil spirits and ghosts.

But it is also a notoriously dangerous practice, and was as such banned in Beijing between 1994 and 2005.

The ban in Beijing was lifted due to popular demand, following similar moves in 200 Chinese cities a year earlier, and the past two weeks had seen one of the most intense fireworks frenzies yet across the city.

The Mandarin Oriental's website said the 241-room hotel was to be the group's flagship property in China and one of Beijing's most luxurious hotels.

However its statement about the fire said it did not own the building, and was only contracted to run the hotel.

The CCTV complex, built at a cost of five billion yuan (710 million dollars), was among many amazing developments to rise ahead of last year's Beijing Olympics.

Some had described the CCTV tower as one of the most daring pieces of architecture ever attempted.

Two cantilevered arms edge towards each other from twin towers that lean over at a sharp angle, with 10,000 steel beams locking the structure together.

Other landmarks include Swiss architects Herzog and De Meuron's Bird's Nest main Olympic stadium, and the bubble-wrapped "Water Cube."

French architect Paul Andreu designed the National Grand Theatre, renowned for a massive titanium-tinted dome.

And an enormous new airport terminal designed by British architect Norman Foster opened last year.

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BEIJING — A fierce blaze started by an illegal fireworks show engulfed one of the Chinese capital’s most architecturally celebrated modern buildings on Monday, the last day of festivities for the Lunar New Year, the official Xinhua News Agency reported Tuesday.

Back Story With The Times's Andrew JacobsThe fire was not extinguished until early Tuesday morning. Xinhua, quoting a fire official, said a fireworks company had been hired to ignite several hundred large firecrackers in an open space outside the building, the Mandarin Oriental Hotel, which was under construction.

The official described them as illegal fireworks that much more powerful and explosive than those sold at roadside stalls.

One firefighter was killed and seven people were injured, including six firefighters, according to Xinhua.

The 34-story building, designed by the Dutch architect Rem Koolhaas and containing the hotel and a cultural center, is part of China Central Television’s new headquarters, an angular behemoth built to coincide with the Beijing Olympics last year. The structure consists of two slanting towers that are joined by spans at the top and bottom. Xinhua reported that CCTV had hired the fireworks company.

Firefighters, their equipment reaching up only a dozen or so floors, could do little to contain the blaze, a spectacular wall of flames reflected in the glass skin of the adjacent CCTV tower.

The CCTV complex was an expensive trophy of the pre-Olympics building boom, the result of many billions of dollars that the Communist Party had devoted to making Beijing a city of the future. The main CCTV tower appeared untouched by the fire.

The 241-room hotel, which had been due to open this summer, was unoccupied at the time, hotel executives said.

According to Chinese television, the fire began at 8:27 p.m. Monday, although witnesses said they spotted flames as early as 7:45 p.m. Within 20 minutes, they said, the fire had spread from the lower floors to the building’s crown. Smoke drifted across the night sky, obliterating a full moon.

The authorities blocked off a thoroughfare known as the Third Ring Road, which runs adjacent to the complex. Subway cars running underneath the site were briefly halted, stranding thousands of passengers. Frantic police officers tried to shoo away huge crowds as sirens wailed and fireworks lighted up the skyline . People watching noted that the timing of the fire, at the end of the spring festival, was inauspicious.

The city had been crackling with fireworks for the annual Lantern Festival, the final day of the two-week Chinese New Year holiday.

A spokesman for Mr. Koolhaas’s firm in Rotterdam, the Office for Metropolitan Architecture, called the fire “a great tragedy.” The spokesman, Stefan Petermann, said the firm had won the competition for the building in 2002; groundbreaking took place in 2004, and the building was due to be completed this May.

As they stood gaping at the blaze, many people said the fire would be widely interpreted as a poor omen for the coming year.

Fan Wenxin, 20, a waiter who works a few blocks from the complex, rattled off a litany of disasters that have shaken China in recent months, among them the Sichuan earthquake, the riots in Tibet and a drought that has left Beijing and much of northern China without precipitation for more than three months. “This does not bode well for the new year,” he said.

Edward Wong contributed reporting from Beijing, and Graham Bowley from New York.

in http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/world/asia/10beijing.html?hp


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É difícil neste momento apontar responsabilidades, mas tendo em conta que a obra não estava ainda concluída, se bem bem perto disso, A área afecta à obra e que corresponde ao estaleiro está sob a responsabilidade do empreiteiro. Neste caso o empreiteiro tem de cumprir todas as normas(que devem existir) de segurança no estaleiro, nommeadamente no acondicionamento de rezíduos e desperdícios da obra. Ou seja, nesta fase não consigo descortinar qualquer responsabilidade no projectista ele só passa a ser responsável depois da obra concluída e nos casos que as opções projectuais constituem um potencial ou efectivo perigo.

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